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Fathers’ rights groups too often overlook children’s interests

Gregg Herman

Gregg Herman

With a new legislative session underway, once again there are efforts to require Wisconsin family courts to order equal physical placement in every – or virtually every – case.

These efforts are generally being made by male advocacy groups who believe that the system is gender biased and the cure is to remove discretion from the courts. For the most part, these efforts have failed. However, given the vagaries of the legislative process, one never knows.

These efforts are blind to several important aspects of family law. For one, they rely on specific examples which, even if true, would result in “anecdotal legislation,” which is a lousy way to make laws. Moreover, they make the mistake of tying the hands of a court which deals with cases with an infinite number of permutations. The effect would be to force any number of square blocks into round holes. Most importantly, these efforts are concerned mainly with parents, not with the most important parties, the children. What is best for a parent is not always best for the child and, if they differ, the latter should prevail.

For many years, the best-interest standard (which is still the gold standard, although there is no definition provided either in statutes or case law) resulted in a strong preference for the mother. In fact, some states, including Wisconsin, recognized an idea known as the “child of tender years” doctrine which provided that young children belonged primarily with their mother.

As women achieved closer to equal rights (they are not quite there yet), men advocated that “equality” should work both ways. Therefore, the reasoning went, men deserved as much time with their children as women. Note that what was best for children was not the primary consideration. Rather, it was assumed that what was best for the children was equal placement.

In many cases – in fact, in my experience, in most cases – an equal – placement order is consistent with the best interests of children as it accomplishes the very important goal of avoiding litigation. After all, if there are no overriding issues, such as domestic violence, mental health, substance or alcohol abuse, and no geographical impediments, an equal-placement order avoids the need to make nitpicky choice among a variety of similar options. Put differently, in most cases, virtually any resolution is better than a war over children.

However, there are any number of factors which would prevent equal placement from benefitting children. Choices that come up when you are dealing with a late teen-aged child (good luck telling a 16 year old with a car where to live), geography, domestic abuse, substance abuse and mental health are just a few among many reasons why equal placement might not be feasible, much less desirable.

A number of years ago, the legislative process resulted in a compromise statute, which provides that the court should “set a placement schedule that allows the child to have regularly occurring, meaningful periods of physical placement with each parent and that maximizes the amount of time the child may spend with each parent, taking into account geographic separation and accommodations for dif erent households.” Wis. Stas. §767.41(4)a.2.

Of course, maximizing a child’s time with each parent presents a mathematical impossibility as maximizing with one minimizes with the other. In any event, subsequent case law makes it clear that the statute does not mandate equal physical placement. Landwehr v. Landwehr, 2006 WI 64, 291 Wis. 2d 49, 715 N.W.2d 180, Lofthus v. Lofthus, 2004 WI App 65, 270 Wis. 2d 515, 678 N.W.2d 393, Keller v. Keller, 2002 WI App 161, 256 Wis. 2d 401, 647 N. W. 2d 426. Rather the practical implication is that equal placement is preferable, but not mandatory. And, to my view at least, that has worked out pretty well.

But that has not satisfied the father’s rights groups, which continue to advocate for mandatory equal placement, the best interests of children be damned. A Joint Legislative Council committee has been studying the issue (again) and, fortunately, is likely to reject the proposal for mandatory 50-50 placement in every case. Instead, it will likely adopt a proposal which rearranges the factors in Wis. Stats. Wis. Stats. §767.41(5), essentially just putting them in a different order. This would have no legal effect, but may have a psychological effect if a judge thinks the order of factors is important (it isn’t). The proposal may also require a court to make specific findings as to why equal placement is not in a child’s best interests if that is the final order. Again, that’s no big deal since, in a contested case, courts are required to make appropriate findings anyway.

The dangerous proposals are those which would establish a legal presumption for shared equal placement. First, we don’t need that – such a “presumption” exists in practical effect already. Secondly, and most importantly, any presumption should be made by solely taking into account what is best (or in real life, least bad) for a child caught between competing parents. And although courts don’t always get it right because courts are human, they need discretion to consider the individual, discrete facts in each case.

Put another way, the law isn’t broken, so don’t fix it.

Gregg Herman is a family-law attorney with Loeb & Herman in Milwaukee He is board certified in Family Law Trial Advocacy by the NBTA, a fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers and is a former chairman of the Wisconsin Bar Association and ABA Family Law Sections. In addition to Wisconsin Law Journal on family law issues, he operates Wisconsin Family Law Case Finder, a legal research site for family law practitioners. Gregg welcomes comments at


  1. And this is why no one trusts family law attorneys.

    There’s not a single person, group, entity arguing for mandatory equal parenting time. What every equal parenting bill, that I’ve ever seen, requires is the standard of rebuttable presumption that equal time with both parents is in the child’s best interest. That should be the standard. The judge or jury still has a vast amount of discretion related to the child’s best interest, and there’s no evidence of any adjudicating individual or entity placing children back into a violent situation because their hands were tied by an equal parenting law. Mr. Herman’s argument contains one or more factually incorrect premises.

    The clinical evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of 50/50 custody, and virtually every mass shooter grew up in a single parent home, most often with an absentee father.

    Straw man arguments do nothing to further the conversation, and family law attorneys who have gotten rich preying on the suffering of families and high conflict divorces should be ashamed of themselves.

    In Texas, recently and during open comments on equal parenting bills before the legislature, parents of both genders, child psychologists, and therapists showed up ALL in support of the bills. Those opposed? Every single one was a family law attorney.

    I’m sure the Wisconsin Law Journal will censure and delete these comments, and Mr. Herman will continue his fight against equal parenting and the well being of children so he can keep getting rich, but equal parenting as a philosophy and as legislature is winning.

  2. Judges like Margaret C. Reilly in Nassau County New York is an example of a racist, sexist and bigoted judge who discriminates against men no matter how much evidence is placed before her. Discretion must be taken away from judges who often times are racists and bigots. the reccomrndation of forensic experts should be 100% binding instead of an ignorant judge in the absence of a automatic 50-50 custody.

  3. Wisconsin is where the greatest current problems started. So many years ago, when Irwin Garfinkel, Columbia Social Work professor and professional plagiarist of Soviet law, published his ideas on child support reform, he was head of the Wisconsin Institute for Research on Poverty. Both parties embraced his fake morality; giving “social responsibility” to men … realistically interpreted as taking arbitrary control of men and ceasing their assets (arbitrarily). At the time, it was just thought to be a Commie thing, because Garfinkel was copy-pasting Soviet law. Since then, it’s become obvious that it’s organized criminal stuff. Nobody involved really cared about political ideology. Billions are now stolen from taxpayers, fathers, and children; and these grunts are still pretending (with such terribly weak premise) that it’s about women’s rights or something. That’s way too stupid.

  4. All of the Bar associations HATE shared parenting, why? Because they are corrupt entities at odds with the well being of our children and society. Shame on you self serving parasites! Judges and lawyers who do not support Shared Parenting are criminals.

  5. This article is laughable since nearly half the Fathers’ Right’s Movement is made up of women. Women who are Mothers, Grandmothers and daughters who spent their childhood alienated from one parent because of over priced family law attorneys who sell their services based on the usual “aren’t your children worth all your money”. Don’t worry family lawyers, people are having an eye opening today as all the children who have been alienated because of your services are starting to come forward. I hope they sue all of you for manipulating this madness for profit. Oh and for the truth. Fathers’ Rights Groups advocate for Mothers too and the shared parenting bills we advocate for are the ones calling for “the rebuttable presumption of 50/50”, this gives both parents an opportunity to be actively involved in their children’s lives. If something occurs where one parent is deemed unfit the other could challenge that parent in court for custody. This would solve majority of conflict, reduce court costs for parents and ensure that children are not mistakenly taken out of the life of the primary parent (something the courts get wrong a lot because of sexists views and only caring about money). Just remember one thing, for those who have been in court will likely tell you the same thing. Whether you have 30 thousand dollars or 200 thousand dollars, your case will likely cost you either amount because these lawyers keep the litigation going until your broke or one parent gives up. The Family law industry has been destroying families for a long time.

  6. At present, mother’s interests are uniformly put ahead of children’s well being. The best interest of a child is to have two parents, both a Mom and a Dad. This is not rocket science. This article is shamelessly ignorant. The bias for mothers in family court isn’t just significant, it’s ragingly and stupefyingly out of control. Family court violates the sanctity of parents, violates and traumatizes precious innocent children, and is abhorrently sexist.

  7. You’re so afraid you’ll lose money if children were given equal access to both parents that you advocate against children being able to see both parents equally.

    I’m 100% certain if you had the 8 hours a month custody time I get you would think differently.

    Children deserve both parents. As a medical professional I have seen firsthand the destruction you and family law have done to our society. You should be ashamed of yourself; but your wallet probably kills the shame and makes you proud.

    You profit off of the battles in family court so of course you don’t want humans being treated equally.

  8. It IS a broken law. 50/50 should be the standard placement unless there is an actual reason why it can’t be done which 9/10 there is no reason, just a bitter mom. If a Father wants to be around God damn it let him be! Stop robbing him of his hard earned money!

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